Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

03/08/2005 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HJR 8 SUPPORTING ALASKA ARMY NATL. GUARD TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 83 SEISMIC HAZARDS SAFETY COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 83(MLV) Out of Committee
+= HB 94 ELECTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 144 ADVISORY VOTE ON COMMUNITY DIVIDEND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
HB  83-SEISMIC HAZARDS SAFETY COMMISSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:10:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  next order of business was HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO. 83  "An  Act  relating to  the  Alaska Seismic  Hazards                                                               
Safety Commission."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:11:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAVID   GUTTENBERG,  Alaska   State  Legislature,                                                               
testifying at the request  of co-sponsor Representative Gabrielle                                                               
LeDoux, noted that HB 83 and HB  84 were combined into HB 83.  He                                                               
said the bill would extend the  sunset date on the Alaska Seismic                                                               
Hazard  Safety   Commission  and  add  tsunami   hazards  to  the                                                               
commission's purview.  The commission  is due to expire, and [the                                                               
Legislative Budget and Audit Committee]  recommends it be allowed                                                               
to  expire because  there  has been  no action  on  it, he  said;                                                               
however,  [the commission]  is critical  to the  safety and  well                                                               
being of Alaska.  He stated  that, currently, nobody in the state                                                               
is working on  ways to mitigate damages caused  by earthquakes or                                                               
tsunamis or recommending related  building standards and codes to                                                               
minimize  damage   in  the   event  of   such  disasters.     The                                                               
commission's  sole  authority is  to  make  recommendations.   He                                                               
indicated that the insurance industry is supportive of [HB 83].                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:13:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  said HB 83  seeks to prevent  the loss                                                               
of lives.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:15:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GATTO  remarked   that   there  are   "essential                                                               
building" standards;  schools and  fire department  buildings are                                                               
built to withstand earthquakes.  He offered further details.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:16:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  responded  that  there  are  national                                                               
standards, but  they are applied  indiscriminately to  the entire                                                               
state  as if  it were  one  zone.   He  said the  state needs  to                                                               
delineate  high-risk areas  and decide  where and  what standards                                                               
are needed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:17:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked  if  Representative  Guttenberg  was                                                               
saying the state should name  specific dangers and the zones that                                                               
they occupy.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:18:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  indicated the  intent is to  allow the                                                               
commission to  have the  opportunity to decide  the needs  of the                                                               
state regarding earthquakes and tsunamis.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:19:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROD COMBELLICK,  Associate Director,  Division of  Geological and                                                               
Geophysical  Surveys,  Department  of National  Resources  (DNR),                                                               
stated the department's  support of HJR 8.  He  said that hazards                                                               
vary around  the state "from  the highest earthquake  exposure in                                                               
the nation along  the southern margin of the  state, to virtually                                                               
no hazard up in the far northwestern corners of the state."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:21:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. COMBELLICK  said there are  efforts around the state,  but no                                                               
real coordination, or standards.   Local government participation                                                               
on the  commission should be  effective, he added.   Other states                                                               
show that  the efforts  of these types  of commissions  have been                                                               
very effective in reducing casualties.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:23:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. COMBELLICK  said it is  easy to become complacent  because of                                                               
the rarity  of these types  of events,  but that people  are then                                                               
surprised  and not  prepared  when  the next  event  occurs.   An                                                               
executive order transferred this commission  to DNR, and there is                                                               
already money  set aside for the  commission.  "This is  a modest                                                               
investment now that  will certainly reap major  benefits in terms                                                               
of money and lives saved in the future," he concluded.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:24:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON asked  if  HB  83 will  impose  building codes  and                                                               
inspections or simply make recommendations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:25:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. COMBELLICK  stated that the commission  is strictly advisory,                                                               
and recommendations may  end up as building codes  in the future.                                                               
A big  part of  [the commission's] job  will be  public education                                                               
and coordination around state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:25:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON asked  if  codes  would only  be  adopted by  local                                                               
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:26:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COMBELLICK said  yes,  as  he understands  it.   Some  local                                                               
jurisdictions have  seismic codes now, and  this commission would                                                               
not change the process, it would only make recommendations.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:27:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked if the  addition of two  members to                                                               
the commission requires a change in its quorum.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:28:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  noted that  AS 44.37.065  (e) specifies                                                               
that  "six  members  constitute a  quorum"  for  the  nine-member                                                               
commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:29:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG said keeping it  at six is fine because                                                               
the commission has no real authority,  and that makes it a simple                                                               
majority with an eleven-member commission.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:29:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROGER   HANSEN,  State   Seismologist  and   Research  Professor,                                                               
University of Alaska,  Fairbanks, testified in support  of HB 83.                                                               
He said  his group does a  lot of work to  understand earthquakes                                                               
and  tsunamis,  and  it  develops  many maps.    A  committee  to                                                               
investigate mitigation and land use is good, he said.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:31:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked how often  the committee meets, and if                                                               
there is money for travel, per diem, or conferencing.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:32:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  said that most commission  members are                                                               
public employees,  and their role is  built into their jobs.   In                                                               
terms of  the member from the  insurance industry, he or  she can                                                               
teleconference.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:32:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:33:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG moved  to  report CSHB  83(MLV) out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.    There  being no  objection,  CSHB  83(MLV)  was                                                               
reported out of the House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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